Thread:SirGawain8/@comment-63.155.193.58-20190518205419/@comment-97.90.122.45-20190519173731

7Sussettey1 wrote: So I did some research on the backstory of the Joker, and it’s very messy, but that’s mostly because the several writers that wrote his character decided that an unreliable narrator should have multiple origin stories, fulfilling Joker’s line, “if I’m going to have a past, I want it to be multiple-choice!” It has been made clear that he does not remember his life before becoming the Joker, although he remembers things from time to time, but they don’t match up because they are from different versions of his origin story.

In all of these origin stories, there is one common similarity, and that is he was a criminal before jumping into the vat of chemicals. That is one thing we can be certain of. Also, he is insane, but that’s something we knew already.

So, allow me to make a counter-argument. I don’t think Two Brains is a parallel or a character based on the Joker. Maybe he is somewhat similar to a specific portrayal of the Joker, but there isn’t enough there. Two Brains remembers his life before becoming evil, if I remember correctly, and still retains some of his original personality. It’s just that the sociopathic mouse brain takes over his life. He’s not really the same kind of insane as the Joker, and we know for a fact that he wasn’t a criminal before turning evil. Well, I did some research, too. {Thank you, Batman Wiki.}

While you prove some valid points, there are some things about Joker that you can only find out about one way- Reading the comics. In the comic: "Batman: The White Knight,"  in which Joker actually transforms back into his former self, we find out that Jack Napier and The Joker's minds and ways of thinking are indeed different, and that Jack can't just access his alter-ego's specific memories at will. It took him some struggle for him to finally be able to remember that one terrible night, when Batman's sidekick, Robin, was supposedly killed at the hand of  The Joker. So, you are right when you say that Two Brains and Joker have very different perspectives of their lives before going crazy, but there's a few things you overlooked.

In one of The Joker's backstories, we are told that before he fell into the vat of chemicals, he was a failed stand-up comiediean, desperately looking for a job to provide for his pregnant wife. On his last nerve, he finally relents to helping a gang of criminals rob a chemical plant, as long as it would support his family. On the night of the robbery, he receives word that his wife and unborn baby have died in a household accident. He tries to back out of the robbery, but the gangsters won't let him. The heist eventually fails, and in his attempt to escape Batman, he falls into an open vat of chemicals, and emerges as the Joker. All the pressure from the night, his wife dying, running from Batman, and the effect from the unknown toxins he fell into, Joker snaps, and goes completely insane. From what we are told in that story, Joker didn't really use to be a criminal, he just was looking for a way to support his family, and when his wife and child die, he tries to back out of the deal.

Now, I don't know wether this is his real backstory, or not, but its food for it's thought. I also have one more argument.

When the Batman comics first started coming out, around the time of The Great Depression, The Joker wasn't originally portrayed as an insane serial killer. He was just a witty criminal mastermind, with weapons and props that fit his whole "jester" persoana. Kind of like... Dr. Two Brains and his "mouse" theme?

All in all, it's just a theory, and since the PBS Kids website actually establishes that Two Brains is actually based off the book character, "Jekyll and Hyde," my debates are kind of debunked. But I did find some similarities between The Joker, and Dr. Two Brains, and thought that was kind of cool.

Still stylish,

Luam667